Quick! How many people were in the car when President Kennedy was shot? I and many other people remember four. Kennedy, his wife, Governor Connally, and the driver. In this realty, there are six people, including Mrs. Connally and another man.This is the biggest Mandela Effect mind fuck ever for me.
Many people (me included) don't remember what looks like a second windshield (or the frame for the convertible top), yellow flowers, or Mrs Connally even being there. The car was only a 4-seater, but now in every photo and video, it's a 6-seater. With a 6-seater, the theory of the driver shooting JFK goes right out the window. How could he possible to shoot Kennedy with a window or convertible frame and two other people in between them all while continuing to drive?
I've been fascinated with conspiracy theories since I was a child and like everyone else, I've seen the assassination footage over and over from the time I was very young. I bought books on the assassination as well and replayed YouTube videos looking for clues. Visually, this event is etched into my mind and the minds of those who remember only four people in the car. Now there's six people and little evidence that says otherwise. I did find a few things, though. PLEASE comment and tell me what you remember.
Replica at the Historic Auto Attractions Museum in Roscoe, IL show a 4-seater car.
Travel blog Little Things also things shows a 4 seat replica.
Dahl Auto Museum in La Crosse, WI shows a 4 seat replica.
This image from the movie "The Trial of Lee Harvey Oswald" shows a 4-seater through the scope.
Secret Service reenactment of the assassination shows a 4-seater. You can see the video here.
How many people in the car? You be the judge.
This is crazy I remember 4 people in the car and also that the tiananmen square guy was run over by the tank.
ReplyDeleteSame here. He was run over. That's why people were so outraged. This wouldn't have been such a defining moment in history if he had lived (in the old world).
DeleteA few years ago, I saw a documentary on PBS about Tienanmen Square where they cut right before the "graphic footage" of him being run over. Now, this documentary is nowhere to be found. Other people posting on the internet have seen the actual footage.
I did see it. I watch PBS all the time. He was ran over.
DeleteI have believed there were four in the car. What's on the official record?
Now, all the photos and videos of the assassination show 6 people in the car: http://ss100x.com/jfk.jpg
DeleteAs for Tank Guy, they say he's still alive.
I remember a 4 seater car. The driver was a suspect also, now there is bullet proof glass and two people between them. on the other hand I have seen video of the Tiananmen guy with the bags not getting run over. Apparently there are several alternate time lines crossed here. Prayer seems to help restore things for the last two weeks at least the lords prayer has been wrong but now it's right again. A woman told me that she and other had prayed for it to go back to normal and it did. When I checked it yesterday it was back to "on the Earth, as it is in Heaven" not 'in the Earth."
DeleteAlso, the conspiracy theory that the driver slowed down, turned and shot Kennedy. How could he have not been seen shooting if Connally's wife was in line of site right behind the driver. I remember Connally talking about how upset his wife was that she couldn't come along and thank God she didn't was his point. Does that YouTube video still exist of the driver shooting the president? Connally was in the front seat on the passenger side in front of Kennedy. The magic bullet theory had to do with that. https://youtu.be/e1uoQbluW1w
DeleteSteve, the video of the driver supposedly shooting Kennedy exists, but it's with the 6-seater car. Again, this theory makes no sense with two other people in between him and Kennedy.
DeleteAlso, in an interview with Connally, he said that when he was shot, his first thoughts were about Nellie and the children. Doesn't that sound like she wasn't there? If she had been right next to him when he got shot, wouldn't he have said something like, "I wondered if Nellie was shot." or "I wondered if Nellie was ok"?
A small snippet of proof saying that Connally was indeed in the front seat next to the driver: https://mandelaeffectproof.blogspot.com/2016/07/kennedy-assassination-four-passengers.html
There are 6 people in the car,the car that Kennedy was officially a four seated car but that day Kennedy's car was different it had
Delete6 seats JFK,Governor Connaly and his wife,Jackie and the front row drivers actually 2....
There are 6 people in the car,the car that Kennedy was officially a four seated car but that day Kennedy's car was different it had
Delete6 seats JFK,Governor Connaly and his wife,Jackie and the front row drivers actually 2....
M Girl, in this video i found of a 1991 interview of Connelly he says his wife took him down on her lap and that Ms (yes he says miss and not missis) Kennedy screamed "My god...I have his brains in my hand".
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSKcOoQH8bc
NeoMax, that's the way the Mandela Effect works. You will find videos, photos, etc. that correspond to today's version of history, but almost everything else to the contrary has vanished. Thanks for reading!
DeleteI have dealt with conspiracy theories regarding the Kennedy Assassination for the past 15 years, as almost every year students have asked me about what I think. The seats occupied by Gov. and Mrs. Connelly were called "jump seats" and not always folded out. This is actually crucial to the positioning for the bullet that struck both JFK and Gov. C. This is one reason why many reconstructions have the bullet "zigging and zagging" to hit both.
DeleteIt has always been 6 people. That is how I remember it and, since I have looked at photos and videos almost annually, I am as confident in memory as I can be. Of course, I expect many will find reasons to discount my memory, but whatever refutations they offer can be equally applied to the 4-person memory...
Look closer, folks! The re-enactment cars were regular 4-door Lincoln Continental convertibles, but the actual Presidential limousine was a stretched Lincoln Continental with 4 fixed seats and two jump seats that folded down from the bulkhead behind the front seat. Governor and Mrs. Connolly were sitting in these really small jump seats with barely enough space for their knees. There were four PERMANENT seats in JFK’s limo but two folding jump seats so, yes, it was carrying six passengers but two of the six, Governor and Mrs. Connolly, were not at all comfortable in their folding jump seats, I’m sure.
DeleteSam55, do I have to even say it? For those who remember the 4-seater, Mrs. Connolly wasn't there. There were no jump seats because it was only a 4-seater car, period. That's the point of The Mandela Effect!
DeleteSo they have crap memories? And you're trying to justify that?
DeleteConnally (who is sitting right in front of JFK--who also gets shot) mentions his wife was in the car, and that when he was hit, she pulled him into her lap. Doctors also mention that her doing so likely saved Connally's life, as it helped seal the wound. So there's 4 people right there.
That'd mean--the car is exactly as Sam55 describes (a stretch limo with 2 jumpseats--which Connally also mentions sitting in a jumpseat--or Mrs. Connally was the driver and there was no assigned official driver and no Secret Service in the car with the President--something beyond implausible).
It's not the Mandela Effect. It's just human memory. You remember the pieces that you need to effectively recreate the incident -- JFK. His wife. The guy in front of him that got shot. That's the bare minimum your mind needs to recreate the memory. Logically, you also assume someone is driving the car, so you remember 4.
As for fictionalized recreations of the shooting, it's very difficult (and cost prohibitive) to find a completely open top stretch limo, which is likely the reason the 4 seater version is often used. It's just cheaper and easier to get an open top 4 seater.
As for a 4 seater replica...it's just that--a 4 seater replica. It's literally telling you how it is different.
I literally just had a dream about this. I saw the car the way it is now, 6 seater with the noticeable bullet proof glass thingy in the middle, i mean who could miss it because it stands out so much. I was super scared and wondered why it could change. Ive only seen a little on it before, but the dream really sparked questions in my mind, why would i dream about this all of a sudden and see it exactly the way it is now compared to before if i remember it the way it was before, or at least in my reality? Something is going on! There was 4 people in the car!
ReplyDeleteif there was a bullet proof=buffer/the governor would not of intercepted a round/bullet
Delete...........4 seater!not a 6/
I literally just had a dream about this. I saw the car the way it is now, 6 seater with the noticeable bullet proof glass thingy in the middle, i mean who could miss it because it stands out so much. I was super scared and wondered why it could change. Ive only seen a little on it before, but the dream really sparked questions in my mind, why would i dream about this all of a sudden and see it exactly the way it is now compared to before if i remember it the way it was before, or at least in my reality? Something is going on! There was 4 people in the car!
ReplyDeleteCreepy! Pay attention to your dreams closely from now on. You may have more premonitions. When I was in elementary school(in the 80s), I had a dream that the teacher was using a globe to to teach us geography and in the middle of the Indian Ocean, there was some mystery continent. I kept saying,"That doesn't belong there! That doesn't belong there!" But, no one was listening. Then I woke up. I was always freaked out by this dream even as an adult and recently, I saw the video about the globe in the movie Dazed and Confused that has some weird land mass in the Indian Ocean next to Australia:
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research flat earth I have a photo showing that same land mass
DeleteI just found this. Looks just like how it is now.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_871139-Lincoln-Continental-Presidential-Limousine-1961.html
Weird!
DeleteI am confused...the driver didn't shoot kennedy, Lee Harvey Oswald did. I would like to know please if there is a link to this first photo with the six people. This is fascinating to me.
ReplyDeleteIf you've done enough research, you should know that Lee Harvey Oswald didn't really shoot Kennedy like they say. I don't know how old you are, but please research this. So many discrepancies and cover-ups.
DeleteThe driver shooting Kennedy was only a theory and it makes no sense with 6 people in the car. How could he shoot past two other people while driving and hit Kennedy accurately? The possibility of the driver doing the shooting only makes sense if Kennedy was in the seat directly behind him like most people remember.
Here is a link to the photo, but all photos and videos show 6 people in the car now: http://ss100x.com/
New evidence has proved Oswald didn't fire the shot that killed JFK. Where the entry wound was, it was logistically impossible for it to have been Oswald. Conspiracy theorists say it was all orchestrated by VP Johnson, he wanted to be President, he loathed Kennedy, and they did him as well, JFK and Bobby referred to him as the old man. JFK was a liberal democrat, and Johnson was conservative democrat. Also JFK was about to end the conflict in Nam, but Johnson wanted it to continue bc his wife's family was building helicopters for the war and got mega rich. Saw all this on a reputable documentary.
DeleteIve always thought many years that Jackie shot him.
DeleteMe too!
DeleteI remember 6 tbh. Purely because it makes it dificult to see when trying to examine footage claiming the shooter was the driver. Was inconclusive to me, but that is why I remember 6. Sorry.
ReplyDeleteOkay, I totally remember a 4 seater. It's like there had been some kind of time traveller that has interfered with our historical timeline. If you look at the footage now, it clearly looks altered like the film had been tampered with and it actually appears in the video footage that the governor shot him...recoil and all as he leaned back and JFK was looking at him with an odd look on his face.
ReplyDeleteThis, to me, happens to be the most mind boggling and intriguing of the Mandela Effects. I absolutely remember only four people, and when i saw this I thought this can't be, it has to be doctored.
ReplyDeleteWell, last year I bought Stephen Kings "11/22/63". The book"s cover is the photo of them, in the car, before the assassination, I thought "OK, I'll go get the book and look at the cover and it will show four people in the car".
I went and got the book, carried it back to my seat, look at the cover, and dropped the book. There are six people in the car, in the photo on the cover. IMPOSSIBLE! I still can't wrap my head around this.
I was planning on rereading the book, because I really enjoyed it. Now I'm definitely going to reread it, starting tomorrow, because he goes into some of the conspiracy theories in the book, and I want to see if anything he said about those theories has change.
I'm Not a very fast reader, so I hope someone else (who has read the book and is experiencing the Mandela Effect) might also reread it.
Now, about the footage. It looks to me as if Kennedy Is committing suicide, and that Jackie saw what he was doing and couldn't stop him. Then she takes the gun trying to cover up what he did.
That's like me digging out my childhood books and finding that they now say "Berenstain". I have the book "The Killing of a President" about the assassination at my mom's house. I want her to send it to me. I'm sure it has changed as well.
DeleteThere were 6, Senator John Bowden Connally, Jr. and his wife were in the middle row....Connally was obviously part of the Magic Bullet fiasco....his wife was sitting next to him. Since we KNOW JFK and his wife were in the farthest back seat...that would mean the other two passengers (assuming 4) were in the front, one of which was obviously the driver...Obviously Mrs. Connally wasn't driving the car... which she would have had to of been if Mr. Connally was sitting in-front of JFK and there were only 4 people in the car.
ReplyDeletehttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/John_F._Kennedy_motorcade%2C_Dallas_crop.png
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/conn_n.htm
I think the confusion in remembering this event has to due with the structure of the "car" itself and that seemingly inconspicuous divider between the back four passengers and the front two passengers.
The point is that those who remember a 4-seater don't even remember Mrs. Connally being there. My recollection is the same as many other people: Kennedy and Jackie in the back (of a 4-seater) and Connally riding shotgun next to Greer, the driver.
DeleteRight?! Connally was never in the car. It WAS the driver, the president, first lady and a guy in front of the president.
DeleteMandela Effect = Quantum CERN (LHC) Effect. They are collapsing parallel worlds and the timelines are overlapping. That or quantum computers are literally creating and editing our reality. Which would explain changes like "Mirror Mirror" to "Magic Mirror." And all of the other grammatical changes people have been noticing in relation to the "Mandela effect." By the way I saw a movie title the other day starring Julia Roberts and it was called "Mirror Mirror" not "Magic Mirror." ... Just anoth small tidbit of proof that things have changed in this reality from the one we grew up knowing, since they would have named the movie differently but it's named after the famous line.
ReplyDeleteyou folks are silly. there was always 6 folks in the car. I have followed this since I was 13 in 1973. Although people dispute the warren commission findings, there is no evidence that anyone other than Lee harvey Oswald shot him, and there is abundant evidence that he did. Go on youtube and watch PBS Nova: Cold Case JFK. Very interesting documentary on how modern forensic science demonstrates that the ballistic findings of the Warren Commission were spot on. 3 shots. 2 hit targets. shot from behind. NOT FRONT. In fact it is impossible to shoot from the front.
ReplyDeleteIf you believe in a "magic bullet", then you are the silly one!Instead of talking crap about SO MANY people who remember the same thing, how about looking at the evidence I posted and saying that you don't have an explanation instead of just dismissing what's in plain sight.
Deletejackass enjoy hell
Delete1000 percent sure it was a 4 seater. Now it's also been a 6 seater. I see it. If not for seeing it I would never believe it. I searched for a month for the 4 seater and found it.
ReplyDeleteThe 4 seater has been located: http://facebook.com/groups/1379679592062055/
“It was never printed in a newspaper or magazine,” Winfield said. “It was just preserved in the yearbook. I think after this picture was taken, TWO HOURS LATER or something like that, he was assassinated.”
DeleteSo he was in a different car TWO HOURS prior to the shooting. Also if you notice there are FIVE people in the car not 4.
Wow,i already knew the Mandela effect was real because of Looney Toons/Looney Tunes, If you build it they/he will come and the star wars one but this blew my mind, i know 100% there was only 4 people in the car, i also remember lots of people thought the guy in the front seat was the one who shot him, i remember him looking back when JFK was shot, there was no glass bit or guy in between him and JFK, my sister and mate remember it the same as me. The world is changing, just hope it's for the better.
ReplyDeleteheres proof there was 4 http://abcnews.go.com/US/people-witnessed-jfks-assassination/story?id=20531350 Right off ABC News
DeletePeter Jennings book the Century has Richard Stolley from Life Magazine'discription of the day. It talks about how the Zapruder footage was used in the article. Plus there is a picture of the Life article with a four person car.
ReplyDeleteThanks! I will check it out!
DeleteI remember years ago studying this assassination and sharing a fascination with my stepmom. We watched a 2 hour documentary on it and watched the Zapruder film over and over. I remember is being a 6 seater car. I text my stepmother and asked her what she remembered without looking anything up and even said she remembers a 6 seater as well. I have no doubt in my mind that more than one person was involved and it was a coverup. The fact that Jack Ruby killed Oswald in my opinion was to keep Oswald from opening his mouth. Also the Umbrella man had to do something and the Babushka lady...not to mention a few other suspicious characters seen on the horizon of the bushes. I think the Mandela Effect affects us thinkers more than anyone because of our natural inclination to break information down. Our brains can only hold so much and we question everything. Example of the Bernstein Bears theory...we think too much sometimes...what does it matter if it's an E or an A? I remember Looney Tools and never Tunes. There is no combining of universes, it's just a phenomenon of the brain for those who like to use it and think a lot. There is much unknowns about the brain alone. Just my opinion, have a good day.
ReplyDeleteWhy would anyone build a car with bulletproof glass when it's a convertible. Are we supposed to believe this crap? Also there are a couple of racks or something on the trunk of the car in front of where the spare tire is. I am in my 60s and I remember where I was when Kennedy was shot, I saw the news footage and the car didn't have all this stuff, it was a 4 seat car and he Governors wife was not with them!
ReplyDeleteI'm a college professor and have taught classes on the 1960s for over a decade. I not only remember a 4 seater with the Prez, First Lady, and the Governor and driver in the front seat.. I have lecture notes and powerpoints. Had a whole week on the conspiracy theories involving the magic bullet and how forensics had shown it was 3 shots from behind the car. I also distinctly remember that the Lindbergh Baby had never been found and the case never solved. I was fascinated with the case as a teenager because my grandmother had told me about how the whole country held its breath when the police investigated the parents. There was no ransom note either - just a makeshift ladder left up against the baby's window. Now there's a letter, a dead body, an execution, and a ransom note. This is pretty whacky! I am getting freaked out!
Deleteeatingganesh, thank you! If you would like to share your lecture notes and powerpoints, I would love to publish them on my blog and credit them to you with your real name or pseudonym. You can email me through the contact form on this blog if you like.
DeleteThe Lindbergh baby ME makes absolutely no sense. If his body had been found, then why were there so many hoaxes with people claiming to be the Lindbergh baby? Even The Simpsons did an episode with Grandpa claiming to be the Lindbergh baby! Thanks for reading!
Oh my god, I swear I remember 4 seats too. A friend started telling me about this mandala effect, it's all blowing my mind. This one is by far the craziest.
ReplyDeleteThis makes me just sad. The whole assassination is not what I remember. This is fucked up...
ReplyDeleteI saw this, this morning, and it... it really messed me up. In the past year, I read and finished 11/22/63 by King. During the time that I read it, I watched documentaries, I watched the shooting itself, I looked at pictures, I watched the bullet breakdowns and CGI reconstructions... I watched everything. I just enjoyed knowing everything there was to know, to help supplement the story. It was JFK, his wife, the driver, and a secret serviceman up front. The bullet hit the secret serviceman, as well. This morning, I learned that THIS never happened in this reality. I found that out when I accidentally stumbled upon an interview of Governor Connelly's wife talking about how she was in the car that day... and I thought "...who the hell is she?"
ReplyDeleteThen I looked into it. A lot of people remember it the way I do.
My mom got up for work (I recently moved in with them once again, due to my car getting totalled) and without giving her any idea why I was asking, I just said "Hey, ma... How many people were in the car whenever JFK got ya-know..." and she counts out loud "1,2..3...4."
"Who was up front?"
"I can't remember their names, but one of them got shot. His wife started all these campaigns for gun control after it happened... let's see.. I can't remember his name. Some secret service man."
and then I just kind of was like okay cool, thanks, etc etc and didn't tell her why I was asking. I didn't want to freak her out before she goes off to teach school.
Point is... That's how I remember it too. This... This is wild.
This Mandela Effect freaked me out the most!
DeleteI found an official 4 person car pic from abc news http://abcnews.go.com/US/people-witnessed-jfks-assassination/story?id=20531350
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ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csFguc0tZ-k&feature=youtu.be You don't have all the residue on the 4 seater, there are SEVERAL more. Videos, movies reenactments and more museums.
ReplyDeleteThanks! I'm keeping my eye out and I post things as I come across them. Great find!
DeleteI found an official 4 person car pic from abc news http://abcnews.go.com/US/people-witnessed-jfks-assassination/story?id=20531350
DeleteJohn Lukach, I've seen that photo before. I wasn't sure if it was the 4-seater or just cropped. I feel that was the 6-seater and Connally's wife was there, why would they have cropped her out? I'm leaning towards 4-seater here.
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DeleteI was very interested in JFK assassination and about a year ago spent weeks researching and watching videos about it. There were 4 people in the car. I remember very clearly. Can't believe what I see now. How is this possible and why?
DeleteA few months before finding out about this Mandela Effect, my boyfriend had showed me a video about the theory of the driver shooting Kennedy. It would have stuck out like a sore thumb if there had been 6 people in the car with that glass partition, or whatever in between them. Six people in the car also would have made the driver theory impossible.
DeleteWhen was that m girl? From my research I conclude the 4 seater was still around in march 2016. I noticed the 6 In July. Seriously scary at first. 3 days losing sleep. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rYXDCdNspXQ
DeleteJill, I discovered this ME around May this year. A few months earlier, by boyfriend had shown me the video with the theory of the driver shooting JFK. It was a 4-seater then. So very strange!
DeleteIts fucking insane.
ReplyDeleteI was positive it was 4. I dug up an old LIFE book of photographs that I got in 2003. It shows 6 people. I was skeptical about this Mandela Effect but I'm starting to believe this is real.
ReplyDeleteBelieve it! My dug up my old Berenstein Bears Books that now say, "Berenstain". That's not what she and I read when I was growing up. I have The Killing of a President by Robert Grodin at her house as well. I'm curious to see it next time I am there.
DeleteThis is the craziest thing I have ever come across...I have a vivid memory and recall the events totally different of what is ALL OVER the web today. It freaked me out. Those two people were not there and there was no divider between the driver and the passengers. I think there is all kinds of mind fucks going on as of late and I don't think it will get any better. I have also recently seen a video of a guy that found the ARK of the covenant back in the 70's....How the hell would I have missed that? I watch any and everything to do with those kind of mysteries...But there it is.
ReplyDeleteAlso have you all seen the info on sep 23 2017? look it up... it will shake your melon even more.
September 23, 2017. We'll see! So many doomsday predictions in the past few years.
DeleteThe 4 seater car from Life magazine is from Lyndon B. Johnson's car. Scroll down about three quarters of the way down the page for the photo and text.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/jfk-assassination-article-1.1515624
"View of flowers on the backseat of Vice-President Lyndon Johnson's Lincoln convertible as it sits parked near the entrance of Parkland Hospital, Dallas, Texas, November 22, 1963. Johnson's car was two lengths behind the car in which President Kennedy was assassinated; after the shooting, the entire motorcade was driven to the hospital, where Kennedy was pronounced dead. (ART RICKERBY/TIME & LIFE PICTURES/GETTY IMAGE)"
I find it appalling that so many people posting here know so little about such an important event in the history of our country. Of course there were 6 people in the car. They were driver, Secret Service agent William Greer; next to him in the right front seat was Secret Service agent Roy Kellerman; in the middle fold-down jump seats were Governor John Connally on the right, directly in front of Kennedy, with Nellie Connally on the left jump seat directly in front of Mrs. Kennedy. The reason so many of the reenactment vehicles are 4 seaters is because Ford did not make a production 6-seat vehicle. The reenactment vehicles were standard 4-seat Lincoln Continental. The presidential limousine was customized at a cost of over $200,000 in 1960's dollars. All of this information is readily available in the public domain. A simple Google search will show that this information was almost universally known on the day of the assassination itself. If you remember differently, you are mistaken.
ReplyDeleteThere is plenty of evidence POSTED RIGHT HERE supporting 4 people, besides the memory of the vast amount of people who remember the 4-seater. Unblock your tunnel vision and look at the evidence presented.
DeleteGreat points!
DeleteI've always remembered 6 people in the car.
ReplyDeleteDon't know if I'm crazy or what but I remember the car being white, and a 4 seater.
ReplyDeleteThere are many people who also remember a white car. Thanks for reading!
DeleteIve investigated the JFK shootings right down to interviews with people that sort of met jack ruby, I cant have missed those two people in the car, I looked into the driver theory and would have dismissed it in a heartbeat had that glass partition been there, also the magic bullet theory looks less magic than it did now. I suspected William Greer of being involved as he virtually stopped when signaled, now I know someone who doesn't even remember Jackie climbing out the car to collect skull matter, wtf ? ?. Tainamin square, the guy with the bags does not get run over in my world.
ReplyDeleteWith Connally in the middle and someone sitting in front of him, how in the world could someone have supposedly shot him with the bullet passing through him and hitting Kennedy while completely missing the guy in front? The "official story" is now illogical! Thanks for reading!
Deletethere were 4, ive looked into this in depth, Ive always suspected Greer of being involved by slowing the car down when signaled. Where did that partition come from ? and that magic bullet that was once laughable is now possible, in fact Connolly kind of has to be hit. There were always four in a dark blue Lincoln.
ReplyDeleteThe tianamin square guy doesnt get run over in my time, I know someone who doesnt remember Jackie collecting the skull matter from the car she simply hugs JFK and ducks.
Now? I reckon scooby do did it, does scooby do still exist ? I hope scrappy has gone at least
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This from the national archives jfk FAQ:
ReplyDeleteWhat happened to the Presidential Limousine that carried President Kennedy on the day he was assassinated?
The limousine that carried the President was searched for evidence after the assassination. It was then cleaned and continued to be used for certain functions. The windshield of the limousine was removed as evidence by the FBI and the Secret Service since it had been hit by the third bullet. The windshield was designated Commission Exhibit (CE) 350 of the Warren Commission and as a Warren Commission Exhibit will remain in the custody of the National Archives and Records Administration. The limousine is currently at the Henry Ford museum in Dearborn Michigan.
If there was 6 people in a 6 seater with a bullet proof partition between the driver and middle row passengers, how would the third bullet have hit the front windshield? Would it not have hit the partition glass and not the windshield? I just spoke with my mother who also remembers 4 seats, 4 people and she knew the names of the 4 people. How can this be? Im so conflicted.... How do i get out of this rabbit hole? Did that even happen to Alice?
Yes, those who remember the 4-seater remember the exact same four people in the car. It's so freaky. The Twilight Zone is real and it just gets deeper! Thanks for reading!
DeleteWay cool! Some extremely valid points! I appreciate you penning this article plus the rest of the
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Thank you for reading! The Mandela Effect isn't about just the memories, but showing proof that we are not all crazy!
DeleteVery interesting! I recently saw the video of Kennedy getting shot and remember 4 people, no weird divider/window in the middle which is clearly visible on new film, and the "spray" when he got shot was different. Funny thing is I remember seeing the video very recently oh week to a month ago, but can't put a day/time or reason to why I saw it..... I saw and didn't see it at the same time. Have there been any explanation from museums or the re enactment people on the two row seats?
ReplyDeleteWhat's weird is that a month before I saw the 6-seater, I had seen the video of the driver supposedly shooting Kennedy and everything was normal (4-seater). It changed so fast. I haven't personally contacted the museum or reenactment people , but that is a good idea. I wonder that they'd have to say about it. I did contact Ford 3 times about their logo change, though, and got no response! Thanks for reading!
DeleteI specifically remember the the governor was wearing a hat as well, does anyone else remember this? Ive watched damn near every one of the documentaries growing up and seeing that hat and now nothing
ReplyDeleteNow, that you mention it, I have a vague memory of a hat, but I'm not 100% certain. Let's see if anyone else remembers a hat. I'm curious! Thanks for reading!
DeleteI found a picture of Connally wearing a hat! https://mandelaeffectproof.blogspot.com/2017/12/mels-mandela-recall-part-3.html
DeleteNot sure what planet you people are living on. It's always been a 6 person limo. It was custom made, extended in the middle to accommodate two down foldable jump seats, which the Connelly's were sitting in. There are literally hundreds of photos and video from that day that show this clearly and have shown it for decades. Thousands of books have been written and tens of thousands of researchers have looked into this case in the last 54 years. There are literally millions of pages of official documents on this case. There was no divider or second windshield, it had a plastic "bubble top" that could be installed in case of bad weather. The replicas you all show are exactly what the original Lincoln looked like before it was customized specifically into a limo. There was no other one like it in the world. That's why all the replicas have 4 seats. The limo in question was sent back to Michigan to have the windshield replaced and be reupholstered. Johnson continued to use it after, but it was not available for re-enactments, hence the use of stand in cars. They were investigating the shooting of the President who was sitting in the backseat. Any backseat will do when they are re-enacting the crime to get their mathematical calculations and location distances. No mythological "effect" has changed all the photos, video, documents, radio and television broadcasts, and eyewitness statements from the event...simply ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteYou obviously don't know what The Mandela Effect is! The point is that the current videos and photos are not the way countless people remember them. None of what you said made any sense.
DeleteIf you're investigating the shooting and charting the trajectory of bullets, etc. how could "any backseat" suffice when you need specific measurements?
Do you think that the people who run historic museums are complete fucking idiots, who can't accurately replicate the president's car as it was during the shooting, even if it was customized later as you say? If they were documenting the assassination, why in the world would they replicate the car the way it looked at some other point in time?
If you're already convinced that The Mandela Effect isn't real, then there's really no need for you to be reading this blog. Stay asleep and enjoy life with your cloud of oblivion around you.
The truth scares people. Fact doesn't have feelings. I remember the hat too.
DeleteI'm 38. I remember as a child watching many documentaries that showed 4 people not 6. The reason I remember is because it was the first real graphic violence I had seen on television. I couldn't believe they showed a man having his head blown off. I have seen "Family Guy" episodes that only show 4 people. So I guess Seth MacFarlane is crazy too. I think if we could all think back and remember when we saw it we could narrow down exactly when these changes started taking place. If "they" can change things like this it's only a matter of time before things that affect us all will be changed .I got an idea .Why don't they change to a reality where I'm rich and famous 😁
DeleteBesides "Family Guy", many cartoons, music videos, etc. showed four people. "American Dad" and some video by Marilyn Manson come to mind. I saw the 6-seater change in early 2016, but a few months before, my boyfriend had showed me a video where the driver supposedly shot Kennedy and it had a 4-seater. In 2015, I was I was introduced to the health benefits of tumeric and in less than a year, it was "turmeric". 2015 is when I became aware of The Mandela Effect, but who knows how long it's been going on? I hadn't read a Berenstein Bears book since I was a child 30-someting years ago, so when did that change? Yeah, shift me into a reality where I'm living the good life! Thanks for reading!
DeleteThe Mandela Effect to me has been a domino effect. I remember being in the store about 10 years ago and saying to myself "they changed the name of Jiffy to Jif" Then I saw a video on Sinbad. It has been a avalanche since. The JFK car has me blown away. I remember watching the film thousands of time to see if I could be the one to blow the doors off of the official story. That divider sticks out like a sore thumb, I would have definitely would have remembered that. We are living in the Matrix. I wonder how far the hole will go or when or where we will wake up to next.
ReplyDeleteJFK was my biggest Mandela freak out because I watched that video and bought several books about the assassination over the years from age 12-40! Every day there are new changes. Simple, seemingly unimportant things like celebrity names are all of a sudden spelled differently. I recently got a new copy of my birth certificate that I had lose and I checked my birth date, name spellings, etc. to make sure nothing about me had changed! Thanks for reading!
DeleteAlso, I wonder if "the babushka lady" had anything to do with it either??
ReplyDeleteTHe zapruder film as of today shows a 6 seater though? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2EI12nAp4k
ReplyDeleteAll the videos today show the 6-seater, which is not what we saw in the past.
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DeleteI remember watching many videos of jfk's assassination as a kid, I even made drawings. So my friend and I were talking about this yesterday, and he said that there were 6 people in the car. but I always remembered 4 and told him about it, then he showed me a video I have never seen before with 6 people in the car and it blew my mind. I don't know what to believe anymore. idk like someone put in a fake memory in my head.
ReplyDeleteA few months before I saw the 6-seater video, I had been watching videos with the theory that the driver or Jackie killed Kennedy. There were only 4 seats then it just up and changed. Don't believe your memory are fake. Trust your own brain. This is being done by something or someone to make us doubt ourselves. I know what I saw for 30 years and there were only 4 people in the car until recently. I know that Mickey Mouse wore suspenders, I know that the Monopoly Man had a monocle, etc. thanks for reading!
DeleteOk, ALL of the evidence you presented can be explained logically.
ReplyDeleteIt is easily explained WHY the museums, and recreations and movies, etc all used a 4 seat car (some not even a Lincoln Continental)
#1 The Lincoln Continental Presidential Limousine was a ONE OF A KIND custom car. It came off the line as a standard Lincoln Continental, which would cost (at the time) around $7,500. It was sent to Ohio for further customization. Basically, it was cut in half, extended 3 1/2 feet, had the suicide doors added, as well as an air conditioning unit in the trunk, steps for Secret Service agents. The grill was changed. There were THREE separate removable tops created for this car. After customization, the car cost (at the time) over $200,000. (this would be over $1 million today)
After the assassination, this particular car was KEPT IN SERVICE. It was sent back to Washington, then to Ohio for more changes. A permanent, bulletproof top was made. It was repainted from midnight blue, to presidential metallic blue. A had made engine was put in, giving it 17% more horsepower. A bigger Air conditioning unit was put in the trunk. Most of this cost was covered by the Ford Motor Company, as they OWNED the car. They only leased it to the White House for $500 a year.
So, the reason these museums have a 4 seat Lincoln Continental? Why did these recreations use a 4 seat Lincoln Continental (or a different car altogether?) The answer is simple.
The Presidential Limo was a ONE OF A KIND vehicle. NO OTHER ONE EXISTED. And having one made would have cost too much. At the time, the car was worth over $200,000. Well over $1,000,000 in today's value. So, they used what they had at their disposal.
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the car was a 3 seater and there were 6 people in it including the gov's wife.........
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DeleteThe fact the reenactment removes two seats only further implicates the driver being the second shooter.
ReplyDeleteTouche. Great arguments. Keep up the great spirit.
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ReplyDeletecheck this video out from National Geographic (hopefully before it is removed):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1jCcdttkAc
It documents that day from the arrival of JFK to when he was shot. Take a look at these timeframes in the video with my comments below:
November 21, 1963@1:30pm
8:07 (make sure to stop video when door is open)-there is no middle seat, however there are 3 sitting in the back row (JFK, Mrs Kennedy and Mrs Connally, with John Connally sitting in a side seat in front of the back seat)-you can see a divided section between the front seat (2 secret service members) and the back open seated area)
8:49 & 8:58-overhead and side view of the same car from different event-no middle seat
9:07-look to the left of Clint Hill's ear...how the 4 are seated!
9:53-right at this point, John Connally adjusts himself in his seat (you can see it is a single seat in front of the back seat)
**11:02-look at the eyes of LBJ...he knows!..he doesn't even respond after JFK's speech (this speech is shown later at 40:35...given in Fort Worth)
13:05 (2:55pm)-now shows close up side view of car...with Mrs Connally and Mrs Kennedy sitting in a seat in front of JFK and Jack Connally
-after this...flight to San Antonio Texas for event
-after this...flight to Fort Worth Texas
November 22, 1963
-early in video (8:35)...you will hear them say the only reason why they put the transparent plastic top was for 2 reasons...to protect the president from weather or to protect Mrs Kennedy's hair from wind.
37:55-interview saying how it was raining and misty on Nov 22nd (see pics of all women wearing hair protection)-why was the plastic protected roof left off the limo then?!? At 54:30-President Kennedy is even given a hat to protect him against the rain!
58:31 & 59:29-President Kennedy in white limo with only 2 rows of seats...at 59:52 they explain why the white limo...but also note that the official presidential limo was delivered to Dallas.
1:01:28-picture of JFK, Mrs Kennedy and Jack Connally (w. white hat)
-after this...flight to Dallas Texas
1:07:45-again...now in Dallas Texas...mention of mist and rain (no cover on the Presidential limo??)
1:13:01-see how Mrs Kennedy steps in the Presidential car...no middle seat!
1:13:10/11-now 6 people get in the limo...you can see service member throw jacket in front of divider shield, and then the Connally's and Kennedy's in the back
1:13:28-video showing Presidential limo with 6 people in the car! (where did the extra seat come from?!?)
1:16:30-narration that weather in Dallas TX was a beautiful day...huh??
1:18:55-Clint Hill tells how he got on the Presidential limo to be close to the President (watch video...few seconds later he jumps off)
1:21:19-Clint Hill states "we wouldn't be on the back of the limo at highway speeds"...yet they hadn't been on the limo since Main St. and not yet had hit the freeway...coincidence!?!
1:21:40-Clint Hill states how crowds were sparse...and they had "another successful motorcade"...what a set up!!!
12:32-6 in car (3 rows of seats)
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DeleteI am 50 years old and live in Dallas. There were 4 people only. Connally was in the front right seat and a theory shows driver turning around to shoot Kennedy. This has been changed.
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ReplyDeleteAccording to my analysis the Mandela Effect is a hoax! There are pictures of Nelson Mandela on Google that show there were two different people. It seems the real one died in prison and an imposter took his place. You can see from the pics that the personalities of both of them are totally different, their faces and hair lines are totally different. We have been had by the globalists to maintain their veneer of respectability and power.
ReplyDeleteThis is the real him: https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2013/06/25/nelson-mandela1_custom-64127a3bc8c249783e3bca36a00d3c933c63254f-s800-c85.jpg
As far as the JFK assassination 4-seat/6-seat, there are a number of possibilities:-
1. That the events were changed by time-travelling to that time/place and arrangements changed as well as the car. The motivation for this would be to protect the real culprits - probably those who are still around and affected by their crimes against humanity. However, if this was the case, then I would imagine that this might/would affect the memories of everyone as they would see and film a different scene and the olds scenes would not be there in the universe at all. However, I don't know enough about this to make a definite call.
2. That a new film was made by Hollywood using the same scenes but the people are either lookalikes/actors or even cloned versions of them which are they asked to act differently. However, I can't say whether they retained their DNA to be able to clone them though cloning technology was certainly available at that time. This could explain why there are different versions and memories of the same event still available on the internet.
3. Other alleged Mandela Effect events - the powers have control over the media and therefore what is reported - this means they can put out 2/3 versions of the same event to cause confusion and keep us guessing as they themselves don't know what is the best outcome for them. As far as the minor changes to names of films/books are concerned, these could be done by technology and then claimed to be the originals. However, those that claim to have books stating the pictures have changed may be just agents to push the narrative as we have not seen any real evidence that the books show the new covers despite being 30 years old. Otherwise, if it can be proven that these books are genuinely 30 years old, it means that time-travel technology has been used to change the names (although I think that is a bit trivial unless its a way that the psychop can be deepened) as they want to keep us guessing as to their plans for the future which we are not to preempt as then we will have to go along with it.
The reason I believe it's a hoax as only English language events have been changed and no other which is nigh on impossible as no-one has reported any changes to events in other countries which would suggest that it is an engineered event rather than us all merging with a different timeline.
Stay safe and happy!
Mandela effect is reported from all possible countries. I am from the Czech Republic and Mandela effect has also affected our work purely. I suggest you watch this topic on Reddit. Have a nice day
DeleteYesterday I saw a documentary that showed footage of the day of the assassination. Governor Connally and his wife were sitting in the car.
ReplyDeleteBullets found at parkland dallas Hospital - Audrey Bell -given bullet fragments (4-5)put envelope given _ _ _ authorities but wasn't recorded? Why is so much JFK info/evidence is missing(brain)?But Stretcher bullet CE-399 Kept for Arlen Spector for his magic single bullet theory ?(later he claim JFK stand up?)Three Sets of Initials appear on the Ce399 bullet. " Rf,Ck, and JH. Rf and Ck easily idenfied by _ _ _ documents ,Rf was lead examiner in the jfk 11-22-1963 case Sa Robert Frazier. Ck was Sa Charles Killion who assist Frazier.The Third Set of initials J H ,proved somewhat problematic. Ask Sa Robert Frazier, who JH was ,he related that JH was SA Cortlandt Cunningham. So why did CC initial it JH? Robert Frazier said it was to prevent confusion (already )in event that Cortlandt Cunningham had to mark a document? Robert Frazier said CC may be confused with CC notation for carbon Copy, to avoid confusion, Cortland Cunningham mark became J H? Footnote:1. confusion 2.Change CC to JH when his name was Cortland Cunningham don't make sense - on a legal _ ?3.Why didn't just get someone else to sign it with no CC or was J H somebody else altogether ? The CE-399 bullet chain of custody :1.Darrell Tomlinson 2Richard Jensen3..O.P.Wright 4.Johnsen 5.James Rowley (all failed positively identify the CE-399 bullet )6.Elmer Todd 7.Arlen Spector.(8,during james Humes testimony)!.Darrell Tomlinson moved Stretcher near bathrooms next to the wall - Not Proven that JFK / J.Connally on gurney/Stretcher because it was vacant at the time Tomlinson found CE-399 bullet?
ReplyDeleteI wasn't old enough to see it on TV personally but I was curious about it because my mother used to talk about it in sadness. I always remember a four seater two row limo and my parents said the same my whole lives even today. Never ever six seater three row. It's funny. Even on TV showing the car and incident you sometimes see two rows and other times are three rows even today. Even "today" you see both. Now that's odd and crazily scary as hell. It's pretty equal between the both. I don't know about this whole Mandela thing besides the Ford emblem, Depends and Curious George now not having a tail but this one is discomforting.
ReplyDeleteI think that JFK was the most disturbing Mandela Effect to me after the BerenSTEIN Bears!
DeleteTo the people that remember 6 people in the car, you are so painfully frustrating...
DeleteWe get it...you remember 6 people. You can share pictures all day long that prove you're 'correct' but it doesn't matter or change anything for us.
Don't you get it? We who remember 4 KNOW what we saw. I studied that shit. No one can tell me nothing about the JFK assassination. We know this is totally different to your version of history but please don't insult our intelligence by telling us our memories are faulty. I repeat, there was only ever 4 people in that car. When I first saw 6, I felt like I had gone insane, literally. I'll never forget that feeling of absolute confusion.
Ive come to the conclusion that reality can not be in a fixed state. Even history, where we think what has happened in the past cannot be changed isn't fixed in place. This place we live in is far more mysterious than any religion or science can ever begin to explain.
JamesDecember 23, 2018 at 5:00 AM
ReplyDeleteSo they have crap memories? And you're trying to justify that?
No, James, it's not "crap memories."
One of two possible things have occurred: 1. particle accelerators have created "stranglets" that have twisted parallel timelines, as Marshall Lab has admitted to creating since at least 2010; 2. time experiments have "bent" the timeline creating an alternate experience for many people, "overwriting" their memories.
Ohje, ich bin verwirrt. Ich war mir sicher es waren 4, nun sind 2 mehr an Bord, echt schräg, gar gruselig. Kann es sein das auch Dinge verschwunden sind die man Zuhause vergeblich sucht? Seit wann besteht der Mandela Effekt? Seit 2016? Wann fing die Zeitmanipulation an? Grüsse aus der Schweiz
ReplyDeleteIch kann nicht viel Deutsch, aber ich habe Google Translate verwendet, also hoffe ich, dass das sinn macht! Auf jeden Fall 4 Personen! Seit ich ein kind war, verschwanden dinge von einer minute auf die andere, um nie wieder gesehen zu werden! Ich habe 2016 zum ersten mal vom Mandela-Effekt gehört.
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